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Andrej Karpathy: Software Is Changing (Again)

Karpathy's AI Startup School keynote argues software has had three major versions: code you write, neural network weights you train, and now prompts in English. He works through three analogies for what LLMs are, utilities, fabs, and above all operating systems, and concludes we are in the 1960s of LLM computing. The second half is practical: build partial autonomy products with an autonomy slider and a fast generation and verification loop, keep the AI on a leash, and start writing documentation for agents rather than only for people.

Published Jun 19, 2025 39:31 video 67 min read Added Jul 30, 2026 Open on YouTube →

At a glance

Andrej Karpathy walks on stage at Y Combinator's AI Startup School, looks at a room full of bachelors, masters and PhD students about to enter the industry, and tells them the thing they most need to hear: software has not changed much on a fundamental level for 70 years, and then it changed twice in the last few years. Software 1.0 is the code you write. Software 2.0 is the weights of a neural network, which you do not write but rather produce by curating datasets and running an optimizer. Software 3.0 is the prompt, a program written in English and executed by a large language model. He wants everyone in that room fluent in all three, because real systems move between them.

The first half of the talk is about what this new computer actually is. He tries three analogies in sequence, each one honestly, each one with its limits named: LLMs as utilities, LLMs as fabs, and LLMs as operating systems. The third one is the one he thinks is right, and he pushes it until it yields a date. The LLM is the CPU, the context window is memory, tool use is the peripherals, and we are all thin clients talking to expensive centralized compute over a network under a time sharing scheme. That is the 1960s. The personal computing revolution for this technology has not happened, and nobody in the room knows what it looks like. Along the way he flags the one thing about this technology that is unprecedented: the direction of diffusion flipped, and consumers got it before governments and corporations did.

The second half is what to build. Partial autonomy products with an autonomy slider, built so the generation and verification loop between the model and the human spins as fast as possible. Make verification visual, because a GUI runs on the vision hardware in your head and reading text does not. Keep generation small, because a ten thousand line diff makes you the bottleneck again. Keep the AI on the leash. Build Iron Man suits rather than Iron Man robots. And start writing your documentation, your docs sites and your repositories for a brand new kind of reader: an agent, which is a computer that behaves like a person, and which cannot click a button.

He is extremely quotable throughout, and he is also funny about his own failures, including the week he lost to authentication and payments and the free credits that turned his own vibe coded app into "a major cost center in my life."

The talk, rebuilt

"Software is changing again," and he means again (0:00:00)

He is introduced as the former director of AI at Tesla, looks at the crowd, and says "Wow, a lot of people here." Then the setup: many of you are students, you are about to enter the industry, and this is an extremely unique and very interesting time to do it. Why? Because software is changing. Again.

The "again" is a joke on himself. "I say again because I actually gave this talk already. Um, but the problem is that software keeps changing. So I actually have a lot of material to create new talks." The serious version of the same sentence is the thesis of the whole keynote: software has not changed on such a fundamental level for 70 years, and then it has changed about twice, quite rapidly, in the last few years. Which means there is a huge amount of work to do, and a huge amount of software to write and rewrite.

He starts where you would start if you wanted to show someone all the software there is. The slide is Map of GitHub, a tool that lays out public repositories as a geography you can zoom into. These are the instructions to the computer for carrying out tasks in the digital space. Zoom in and you see the repositories, and all the code that has ever been written.

Software 1.0, Software 2.0, and now 3.0 (0:01:25)

A few years ago, looking at that map, he noticed that a new type of software was around, and he gave it a name. Software 1.0 is the code you write for the computer. Software 2.0 is neural networks, and in particular the weights of a neural network. You do not write that code directly. You tune the datasets and then you run an optimizer to create the parameters.

He is candid that the framing landed differently then than it does now. At the time neural nets were seen as just a different kind of classifier, like a decision tree. The framing fit the moment less well than it fits today.

What makes it real now is that Software 2.0 grew its own infrastructure, in exact parallel to the first era. GitHub is where Software 1.0 lives. Hugging Face is, in his words, "basically equivalent of GitHub in software 2.0." And there is a visualization for it too, the Model Atlas (paper, code), which is the Map of GitHub of model space. He points at the giant circle sitting at the center of it: those are the parameters of FLUX, the image generator. Anytime somebody fine tunes on top of a FLUX model, "you basically create a git commit in this space," and you get a different image generator out the other end. Same social graph, different artifact.

So: Software 1.0 is computer code that programs a computer. Software 2.0 is the weights that program neural networks. His example of the second one on screen is AlexNet, the image recognizer.

Then the pivot that gives the talk its title. Every neural network we had been familiar with until recently was a fixed function computer. Image in, categories out. What changed, and he thinks it is a quite fundamental change, is that neural networks became programmable, with large language models. "It's a new kind of a computer and so in my mind it's worth giving it a new designation of software 3.0. And basically your prompts are now programs that program the LLM."

And the programming language is English. He says it twice, because it still strikes him as remarkable: these programs are written in our native language.

His summary slide is sentiment classification done three ways. You can write some amount of Python to do sentiment classification. You can train a neural net to do it. Or you can prompt a large language model to do it, and the example on screen is a few shot prompt. Same task, three eras, and you program the computer "in a slightly different way" in each. He also notes what you can already see on GitHub: a lot of code there is not just code anymore, there is a bunch of English interspersed with it, which is a growing category of a new kind of code.

Software 1.0Software 2.0Software 3.0
What the program isSource code: instructions to the computer for carrying out tasks in the digital spaceThe weights of a neural networkThe prompt
Who or what writes itA person, line by lineAn optimizer. The person curates the datasetAnyone who can write English. "Suddenly everyone is a programmer"
How you change its behaviorEdit the logicChange the data and run the optimizer againRewrite the instruction
Where it livesGitHub, mapped by Map of GitHubHugging Face, mapped by the Model AtlasIncreasingly in the repository, as English interspersed with code
His example on screenPython that classifies sentimentAlexNet, and a trained sentiment classifierA few shot prompt that classifies sentiment
Degrees of freedomTotal, and you own every bugA fixed function computer: image in, categories outProgrammable in natural language
Barrier to entryFive to ten years of studyMachine learning expertise plus dataYou already speak the language

Programming computers in English, and the C++ that got deleted (0:04:40)

"Not only is it a new programming paradigm, it's also remarkable to me that it's in our native language of English." When this blew his mind a few years ago he tweeted it, the tweet caught a lot of attention, and as of this talk it is still his pinned tweet: remarkably, we are now programming computers in English.

Then he reaches back to Tesla for the proof that a paradigm really can eat a stack. At Tesla they were working on Autopilot, trying to get the car to drive. The slide he showed at the time put the inputs to the car at the bottom, running up through a software stack to produce steering and acceleration. His observation then: there was a ton of C++ code in the Autopilot, which was the Software 1.0 code, and there were some neural nets in there doing image recognition.

What happened over time, as they made Autopilot better, is the part worth remembering. The neural network grew in capability and size, and the C++ code was deleted. Capability and functionality that had originally been written in 1.0 migrated to 2.0. His concrete example: all the stitching up of information across images from the different cameras and across time, which used to be explicit code, got done by a neural network instead, and they were able to delete a lot of code. "The software 2.0 stack quite literally ate through the software stack of the autopilot."

He thought that was remarkable then. He thinks we are watching the same thing again now, one layer up, with a new kind of software eating through the stack.

Which produces his first piece of advice to the room, and it is not "learn prompting." It is the opposite of specialization:

We have three completely different programming paradigms, and I think if you're entering the industry it's a very good idea to be fluent in all of them, because they all have slight pros and cons, and you may want to program some functionality in 1.0 or 2.0 or 3.0. Are you going to train a neural net? Are you going to just prompt an LLM? Should this be a piece of code that's explicit?

Those are decisions somebody has to make, and he thinks you should be able to transition fluidly between the three.

Analogy one: LLMs are utilities (0:06:10)

The first half of the talk proper is a single question. What is this new computer, and what does its ecosystem look like? He answers it by trying analogies and naming where each one breaks.

He starts from a line he says struck him years ago, from Andrew Ng, who he notes is speaking right after him at the same event: AI is the new electricity. He thinks it captures something real, because LLMs certainly feel like they have properties of utilities right now.

Work the analogy and it holds up in detail:

The analogy even extends to the hardware of switching. In electricity you have a transfer switch, so you can move your source between grid, solar, battery and generator. For LLMs we have OpenRouter, and you can easily switch between the different models that exist.

Then he names the place the electricity analogy is actually better than the real thing. Because LLMs are software, they do not compete for physical space. "So it's okay to have basically like six electricity providers and you can switch between them, right? Because they don't compete in such a direct way." You cannot run six power grids into one house. You can route one application across six model providers without anybody digging up the street.

And then the line from this section that got quoted everywhere, which he delivers off the back of something that had happened days before the talk, when several of the major models went down at once and people found themselves unable to work:

When the state of the art LLMs go down, it's actually kind of like an intelligence brownout in the world. It's kind of like when the voltage is unreliable in the grid, and the planet just gets dumber.

He adds the part that makes it more than a joke: the effect scales with how much we rely on these models, which is already dramatic and which he expects to keep growing.

Analogy two: LLMs are fabs

The utility framing misses the capital intensity, so he tries a second one. LLMs have properties of semiconductor fabs, and the reason is the size of the capex. "It's not just like building some power station or something like that. You're investing a huge amount of money." On top of that the tech tree for the technology is growing quite rapidly, which puts us in a world of deep tech trees and research and development secrets centralizing inside the labs.

He names the limit of this analogy himself, immediately, and it is the sharpest thing in the section: "the analogy muddies a little bit also because, as I mentioned, this is software, and software is a bit less defensible because it is so malleable." A fab is a building full of machines nobody else can buy. A model is a file.

But the mapping is fun where it works, and he runs it:

Analogy three, the one he believes: LLMs are operating systems

"Actually I think the analogy that makes the most sense perhaps is that in my mind LLMs have very strong kind of analogies to operating systems."

The argument against the utility framing is that this is "not just electricity or water. It's not something that comes out of the tap as a commodity." These are increasingly complex software ecosystems. Not fungible units.

And once you look at the industry structure, the shape is familiar. You have a few closed source providers, which is Windows and macOS, and you have an open source alternative, which is Linux. For LLMs there are a few competing closed source providers, and the Llama ecosystem is, in his careful phrasing, "currently like maybe a close approximation to something that may grow into something like Linux." He flags that it is still very early, because these are just simple LLMs today, and the complexity is coming: it is not just about the model itself, it is about all the tool use and the multimodalities and how all of that works together.

Then he pushes the analogy down into the architecture, which is the part of this talk that ended up on the most slide decks:

And the app distribution story matches too. If you want to download an app, say you go to VS Code and download it, you can run it on Windows, Linux or Mac. In the same way you can take an LLM app like Cursor and run it on GPT or Claude or Gemini. "Right? It's just a drop down." Portable applications over swappable kernels, selected from a menu.

The user reaches it through text, "like talking to an OS through the terminal" no general GUI has been invented yet Applications Cursor, Perplexity, and the partial autonomy apps still to be written Context window the memory, addressed directly paged in and out LLM the CPU of this computer Peripherals tool use, multimodalities Kernel choice GPT / Claude / Gemini "it's just a drop down" compute is expensive, so it is centralized in the cloud, and we are all a dimension of the batch: time sharing, circa 1960
Figure 1. The operating system analogy taken literally, which is how he means it. The mapping is his: model as CPU, context window as addressable memory, tool use and multimodality as peripherals, and the choice of provider as a swappable kernel under a portable app. The band along the bottom is the part that sets the date.

The 1960s of LLMs, and why there is no personal computer yet (0:11:04)

The analogy keeps paying out, and the next thing it gives him is a date.

LLM compute is still very expensive for this new kind of computer. Expensive compute forces centralization, so the models live in the cloud. We are all thin clients interacting with them over the network. None of us has full utilization of these computers, so it makes sense to run them under time sharing, and the phrase he uses for what you and I are in that scheme is worth sitting with: "we're all just, you know, a dimension of the batch when they're running the computer in the cloud."

That is not a metaphor for the 1960s. That is a description of the 1960s. "This is very much what computers used to look like during this time. The operating systems were in the cloud. Everything was streamed around and there was batching."

So the personal computing revolution for this technology has not happened yet, because it is not economical. It does not make sense yet. But he notes that some people are trying, and he points at the one piece of consumer hardware that turns out to be a surprisingly good fit: Mac minis. The reason is specific and technical. If you are doing batch one inference, the workload is entirely memory bandwidth bound rather than compute bound, which is exactly the regime a machine with fast unified memory and modest compute is good at. "So this actually works." He calls these early indications, maybe, of personal computing, and then refuses to predict what it turns into: "it's not clear what this looks like. Maybe some of you get to invent what this is or how it works."

Then one more analogy, which is the one that explains why so much of the second half of the talk is about interfaces. Whenever he talks to ChatGPT or any LLM directly in text, he feels like he is talking to an operating system through the terminal. "It's just text. It's direct access to the operating system."

And a GUI has not been invented. Not in a general way. He is careful about this, because the obvious objection is that plenty of LLM apps have graphical interfaces. His distinction: "should ChatGPT have a GUI, like different than just the text bubbles? Certainly some of the apps that we're going to go into in a bit have GUIs, but there's no GUI across all the tasks, if that makes sense." A terminal with nicer bubbles is still a terminal. The general graphical shell for this computer is an open problem, and he leaves it open on purpose, in front of a room of people who might build it.

The one thing that is genuinely unprecedented: diffusion ran backwards (0:12:49)

Here he stops cataloguing similarities and names the single property of LLMs that does not match early computing at all, something he had written about separately because it struck him as so different: LLMs flipped the direction of technology diffusion.

The usual pattern is unmistakable once you list it. Electricity, cryptography, computing, flight, the internet, GPS. Transformative technologies, and in every case the first users were governments and corporations, because the thing was new and expensive, and only later did it diffuse to consumers.

LLMs ran the other way. With early computers it was all about ballistics and military use. With LLMs, in his words, "it's all about how do you boil an egg or something like that." And then, with evident delight at the absurdity of it:

It's really fascinating to me that we have a new magical computer and it's like helping me boil an egg. It's not helping the government do something really crazy like some military ballistics or some special technology.

He adds the structural half of the observation: corporations and governments are lagging behind the adoption of all of us. It is just backwards. And he thinks that fact informs where the first apps are and how we want to use the technology, which is a strategic point disguised as a joke about eggs.

His summary of the whole first half, close to verbatim, is a stack of four claims:

  1. LLMs are complicated operating systems, and "LLM labs" is accurate language for what the providers are.
  2. They are circa 1960s in computing terms, and we are redoing computing all over again.
  3. They are currently available via time sharing and distributed like a utility.
  4. What is new and unprecedented is that they are not in the hands of a few governments and corporations. They are in the hands of all of us, because we all already have a computer and it is all just software.

And then the line that lands the section, about ChatGPT arriving on everyone's devices at once: "it was beamed down to our computers, like billions of people, like instantly and overnight, and this is insane." He means that literally, and he turns it immediately into the invitation that the rest of the talk answers. "Now it is our time to enter the industry and program these computers. This is crazy."

The psychology of LLMs: people spirits (0:14:39)

Before you program something, he argues, you should know what it is like. So he spends a section on the psychology of these models, and the framing he gives them is the one people still quote:

The way I like to think about LLMs is that they're kind of like people spirits. They are stochastic simulations of people.

The mechanics underneath the metaphor are stated plainly. The simulator in this case is an autoregressive transformer. It is a neural net, it operates at the level of tokens, and it goes "chunk chunk chunk chunk," with an almost equal amount of compute spent on every single chunk. There are weights, and we fit those weights to all of the text we have on the internet. Because it was fit to humans, what comes out the other side has an emergent psychology that is humanlike. Not designed. Emergent.

Then he does the thing the rest of the talk depends on: he describes that psychology honestly, as a profile with both ends.

The superpower first. LLMs have encyclopedic knowledge and memory, and they can remember a lot more things than any single individual human can, because they read so many things. His reference here is Rain Man, which he interrupts himself to recommend: "I actually really recommend people watch. It's an amazing movie. I love this movie." Dustin Hoffman plays an autistic savant with almost perfect memory, who can read a phone book and remember all of the names and phone numbers. LLMs are very similar. "They can remember SHA hashes and lots of different kinds of things very, very easily." Superpowers, in some respects.

Then the cognitive deficits, and he lists them as deficits, not as temporary bugs:

For the memory problem he has a second pair of movie references, and they are better than they first sound: Memento and 50 First Dates. "In both of these movies, the protagonists, their weights are fixed and their context windows get wiped every single morning, and it's really problematic to go to work or have relationships when this happens." The joke is funny and the mapping is exact, which is why it works. The weights are the person. The context window is the day.

The job he hands the room at the end of the section is to hold both halves at once:

You have to simultaneously think through this superhuman thing that has a bunch of cognitive deficits and issues, and yet they are extremely useful. So how do we program them, and how do we work around their deficits and enjoy their superhuman powers?

The profileWhat it gives youWhat it costs youWhat he says to do about it
Memory of the worldEncyclopedic knowledge, more than any individual human. Remembers SHA hashes. His reference: Rain ManHallucination, and insufficient self knowledgeTreat it as a savant, not an oracle. Verify
Capability surfaceSuperhuman in some problem solving domainsJagged intelligence: 9.11 > 9.9, two Rs in "strawberry"Expect rough edges you can trip on. There is no clean boundary to learn
Memory of youA context window you can program directlyAnterograde amnesia. No consolidation, no expertise over time. His reference: Memento and 50 First DatesProgram the working memory yourself. Do not expect a coworker who learns the org
Instruction followingProgrammable in English by anyoneGullible. Prompt injection, data leakageTreat it as a security surface, not a trust relationship

Partial autonomy apps, and the anatomy of a good one (0:18:22)

He switches to opportunities, and he is explicit that what follows is not a comprehensive list, just the things he found interesting enough for this talk. The first one is what he calls partial autonomy apps.

He makes the case by asking why anybody would do the obvious dumb thing. Take coding. You can go to ChatGPT directly and start copy pasting code around, and copy pasting bug reports around, and copy pasting everything around. "Why would you do that? Why would you go directly to the operating system?" It makes a lot more sense to have an app dedicated to this, and many people in the room use Cursor. So does he.

Cursor is his worked example of an early LLM app, and he pulls four properties out of it that he thinks generalize across all LLM apps:

  1. The traditional interface survives. You notice first that there is still an interface that lets a human go in and do all the work manually, just as before. The LLM integration is in addition to that, and what it buys you is the ability to go in bigger chunks.
  2. The app does a ton of the context management. You are not the one assembling what the model sees.
  3. It orchestrates multiple calls to multiple models. In Cursor's case, under the hood, there are embedding models for all your files, the actual chat models, and models that apply diffs to the code. All of that is orchestrated for you.
  4. An application specific GUI, and he thinks its importance is underappreciated. The reason is not aesthetics, it is bandwidth, and he states it concretely. You do not want to talk to the operating system directly in text, because "text is very hard to read, interpret, understand," and because some of these actions should not be taken in text at all. "It's much better to just see a diff as like red and green change, and you can see what's being added, what's subtracted. It's much easier to just do command Y to accept or command N to reject. I shouldn't have to type it in text, right?" The function of the GUI is auditing: it "allows a human to audit the work of these fallible systems and to go faster."
  5. The autonomy slider. This is the one he names as a design primitive, and Cursor's version of it is four rungs you can point at: tab completion, where you are mostly in charge; command K to change a selected chunk of code; command L to change the entire file; and command I to "just let it rip, do whatever you want in the entire repo," which is the full autonomy agentic version. "You are in charge of the autonomy slider, and depending on the complexity of the task at hand you can tune the amount of autonomy that you're willing to give up for that task."

Then he shows the same anatomy in a product that has nothing to do with code, which is how you know it is a pattern and not a coding tool convention. Perplexity packages up a lot of the information, orchestrates multiple LLMs, has a GUI that lets you audit its work (it cites sources, and you can imagine inspecting them), and has an autonomy slider of its own with three rungs: quick search, research, or deep research, where you "come back 10 minutes later." Varying levels of autonomy you give up to the tool.

human in charge full autonomy The autonomy slider you tune it per task, based on how complex the task is CURSOR tab complete command K a selected chunk command L the entire file command I "let it rip" on the repo PERPLEXITY quick search research deep research come back in 10 minutes AUTOPILOT "more and more autonomous tasks for the user" across five years at Tesla IRON MAN an augmentation Tony Stark drives, AND an agent that flies itself. Build suits, not robots, for now
Figure 2. Every product he praises in this talk exposes the same control, at different granularities. The slider is the design primitive: the user, not the vendor, decides how much autonomy to give up for the task in front of them. His closing prediction is that over the next decade we take the slider from left to right.

Then he turns the examples into homework for the room, and these four questions are the most directly actionable thing in the talk:

I feel like a lot of software will become partially autonomous. For many of you who maintain products and services, how are you going to make your products and services partially autonomous? Can an LLM see everything that a human can see? Can an LLM act in all the ways that a human could act? And can humans supervise and stay in the loop of this activity?

The reason the third question matters is the one he keeps returning to: "these are fallible systems that aren't yet perfect."

He also asks the awkward version of the question, the one that shows the problem is real and not solved: "What does a diff look like in Photoshop or something like that?" Red and green lines work for text. For a layered image edit, nobody knows what the auditable representation is. And he points at the sheer volume of retrofitting implied: "a lot of the traditional software right now, it has all these switches and all this kind of stuff that's all designed for humans. All of this has to change and become accessible to LLMs."

The generation and verification loop, and keeping the AI on the leash (0:23:40)

This is the design argument of the talk, and he says up front that he is not sure it gets as much attention as it should.

The structure of the work has changed shape. "We're now kind of cooperating with AIs, and usually they are doing the generation and we as humans are doing the verification." Which makes the whole system a loop with two participants, and the throughput of a loop is set by its slower half. "It is in our interest to make this loop go as fast as possible, so we're getting a lot of work done."

There are two ways to do that, and he numbers them.

Number one: speed up verification a lot. GUIs are extremely important to this, and the reason he gives is physiological rather than aesthetic. A GUI "utilizes your computer vision GPU in all of our head." Then the line:

Reading text is effortful and it's not fun, but looking at stuff is fun, and it's just a kind of like a highway to your brain.

So GUIs are very useful for auditing systems, and visual representations in general are the lever.

Number two: keep the AI on the leash. He thinks a lot of people are getting way over excited with AI agents, and the counterargument is arithmetic, not taste:

It's not useful to me to get a diff of 10,000 lines of code to my repo. Like, I'm still the bottleneck, right? Even though that 10,000 lines come out instantly, I have to make sure that this thing is not introducing bugs, and that it's doing the correct thing, and that there's no security issues.

An instant diff you cannot verify has not saved you time. It has moved the time somewhere less pleasant. He admits the slide for this part is not very good and apologizes for it, which is a nice moment, and then says the honest version of what he is doing: like many people in the room, he is still developing ways of using these agents in his own coding workflow.

His own practice, stated plainly, is three rules:

He also distinguishes the two modes he works in, and this is the distinction most of the discourse around this talk flattened. "If I'm just vibe coding, everything is nice and great. But if I'm actually trying to get work done, it's not so great to have an overreactive agent doing all this kind of stuff." Vibe coding and getting work done are different activities with different tolerances, and he applies the leash to the second one.

Then he points at a blog post he had read recently and thought was quite good, which develops best practices for working with LLMs, several of them about keeping the AI on the leash. The one he draws out is a causal chain worth memorizing, because it explains why the apparently slower approach is faster:

  1. Your prompt is vague.
  2. So the AI does not do exactly what you wanted.
  3. So verification fails.
  4. So you ask for something else, and now you are spinning.

"So it makes a lot more sense to spend a bit more time to be more concrete in your prompts, which increases the probability of successful verification, and you can move forward." Concreteness is not politeness toward the model. It is loop throughput.

The AI generates instant, tireless, overreactive fallible, and not yet perfect You verify bugs, correctness, security "I'm still the bottleneck" output next concrete chunk The loop runs at the speed of its slower half so there are exactly two levers Lever 1. Make verification fast A GUI "utilizes your computer vision GPU" in your head. Red and green diff, command Y, command N. Not text. Lever 2. Keep generation small Keep the AI on the leash. Small incremental chunks, a single concrete thing. Never a 10,000 line diff. THE FAILURE PATH vague prompt → not what you wanted → verification fails → you ask again → you are spinning THE FIX spend a bit more time being concrete, which raises the probability that verification succeeds
Figure 3. The loop he wants every LLM product to optimize, and the two levers available on it. Note that both levers reduce what the model does per cycle rather than increasing it. That is the counterintuitive claim of this section, and his own workflow is built on it.

He closes the section with his current side interest, which is education, and it is the clearest worked example of the leash in the whole talk. He does not think it works to go to ChatGPT and say "hey, teach me physics." "I don't think this works, because the AI is like, gets lost in the woods."

So for him it is two separate apps. There is an app for a teacher, which creates courses. And there is an app that takes courses and serves them to students. The design win is the thing in between: "we now have this intermediate artifact of a course that is auditable, and we can make sure it's good, we can make sure it's consistent, and the AI is kept on the leash with respect to a certain syllabus, a certain progression of projects." Put a reviewable artifact between the model and the Customer, and the model stops wandering.

Five years of Autopilot, one perfect 2013 demo, and the decade of agents (0:26:00)

"I'm no stranger to partial autonomy," he says, and the credential is five years at Tesla working on exactly this. Autopilot is a partial autonomy product and it shares a lot of the features he has been describing. Right there in the instrument panel is the GUI of the Autopilot, showing the driver what the neural network sees. And there was an autonomy slider: over the course of his tenure, they did "more and more autonomous tasks for the user."

Then he tells the story that is the single best argument in the talk against agent timelines, and he tells it against his own instincts at the time.

The first time he ever drove in a self driving vehicle was 2013. A friend who worked at Waymo offered to give him a drive around Palo Alto. He took a picture of it using Google Glass, which he notes "many of you are so young that you might not even know what that is," and which was all the rage at the time. They got in the car and went for about a 30 minute drive around Palo Alto highways and streets.

"And this drive was perfect. There was zero interventions. And this was 2013, which is now 12 years ago."

The honest part is what he concluded in the moment: "when I had this perfect drive, this perfect demo, I felt like, wow, self driving is imminent, because this just worked. This is incredible."

And then the 12 years:

Here we are 12 years later and we are still working on autonomy. We are still working on driving agents, and even now we haven't actually really solved the problem. Like, you may see Waymos going around and they look driverless, but there's still a lot of teleoperation and a lot of human in the loop of a lot of this driving. So we still haven't even declared success.

He is clear that he thinks it will succeed at this point. The claim is not that it fails, it is that it took a long time, and that a flawless demo told him almost nothing about how long. Which is the setup for the correction he actually came to deliver:

When I see things like "oh, 2025 is the year of agents," I get very concerned, and I kind of feel like, you know, this is the decade of agents. And this is going to be quite some time. We need humans in the loop. We need to do this carefully. This is software. Let's be serious here.

"This is software, let's be serious here" is the whole talk compressed into seven words. Software is tricky in the same way driving is tricky, and he has the receipts for both.

The Iron Man suit, not the Iron Man robot (0:27:52)

The last analogy, and the one he says he always thinks through, is the Iron Man suit. "I always love Iron Man. I think it's so correct in a bunch of ways with respect to technology and how it will play out."

What he loves about the suit specifically is that it is both things at once. It is an augmentation, and Tony Stark can drive it. And it is an agent: in some of the movies the suit is quite autonomous, flies around on its own, and goes and finds Tony. That duality is the autonomy slider. We can build augmentations or we can build agents, and we want to do a bit of both.

But at this stage, working with fallible LLMs, he gives the room a direction rather than a balance:

It's less Iron Man robots and more Iron Man suits that you want to build. It's less like building flashy demos of autonomous agents and more building partial autonomy products.

And these products, he says, have custom GUIs and UI/UX, and the reason they do is the loop: it is "done so that the generation verification loop of the human is very, very fast." But without losing sight of the fact that it is in principle possible to automate the work. So: there should be an autonomy slider in your product, and you should be thinking about how you can slide it and make your product more autonomous over time.

Vibe coding: everyone is now a programmer (0:29:06)

He switches gears to a dimension he thinks is genuinely unique. It is not just that there is a new programming paradigm that allows for autonomy in software. It is that it is programmed in English, which is a natural interface, "and suddenly everyone is a programmer, because everyone speaks natural language like English."

He calls this extremely bullish, very interesting, and completely unprecedented, and he quantifies the change by what it replaced: "it used to be the case that you need to spend five to 10 years studying something to be able to do something in software. This is not the case anymore."

Then, with perfect deadpan: "I don't know if by any chance anyone has heard of vibe coding."

The story he tells about the tweet is the most human stretch of the talk, and it is also a lesson about virality that has nothing to do with AI. He has been on Twitter for about 15 years at this point, "and I still have no clue which tweet will become viral and which tweet fizzles and no one cares." He thought this one would fizzle. "It was just like a shower of thoughts." Instead it became a total meme. "But I guess it struck a chord and it gave a name to something that everyone was feeling but couldn't quite say in words." And now there is a Wikipedia page and everything, which gets applause from the room, and which he receives with "yeah, this is like a major contribution now or something like that."

Then two things he loves and one thing he lost money on.

The kids. Tom Wolf of Hugging Face shared a video that Karpathy says he really loves: kids vibe coding. "I find that this is such a wholesome video. Like, how can you look at this video and feel bad about the future? The future is great." His read on it is a real prediction and not just sentiment: "I think this will end up being like a gateway drug to software development." And he puts his own position on the record: "I'm not a doomer about the future of the generation."

The iOS app. He tried vibe coding himself, because it is fun, and because it is the right tool "when you want to build something super duper custom that doesn't appear to exist and you just want to wing it because it's a Saturday." So he built an iOS app, and the detail that matters is that he cannot program in Swift. "I was really shocked that I was able to build like a super basic app." He declines to explain it, calls it really dumb, and gives the number that is the point: it was "just like a day of work," and it was running on his phone later that day. "I didn't have to read through Swift for like five days to get started."

MenuGen. The second one is live, and he tells the room they can try it. The problem it solves is his own: he shows up at a restaurant, reads through the menu, and has no idea what any of the things are. He needs pictures. That product did not exist, so he vibe coded it. You go to the site, you take a picture of a menu, and it generates the images for the dishes. Everyone gets five dollars in credits for free when they sign up.

Which leads to the best line in this section: "therefore, this is a major cost center in my life. So this is a negative revenue app for me right now. I've lost a huge amount of money on MenuGen."

And then the lesson, which is the real payload of the whole section and which he clearly wants the room to take seriously, because it is the reason the last part of the talk exists:

The fascinating thing about MenuGen for me is that the code, the vibe coding part, the code was actually the easy part. And most of it actually was when I tried to make it real, so that you can actually have authentication and payments and the domain name and Vercel deployment. This was really hard. And all of this was not code. All of this DevOps stuff was me in the browser clicking stuff, and this was extremely slow and took another week.

The demo worked on his laptop in a few hours. Making it real took a week. And the reason was not difficulty, it was annoyance.

His example on screen is adding Google login, and the Clerk integration instructions. He apologizes that the text is small on the slide, but the shape of it is the argument: a huge amount of step by step instructions telling him how to integrate this. "And this is crazy. Like it's telling me go to this URL, click on this dropdown, choose this, go to this, and click on that. And it's like telling me what to do. Like, a computer is telling me the actions I should be taking. Like, you do it. Why am I doing this? What the hell? I had to follow all these instructions. This was crazy."

Which is the hinge of the talk: "So I think the last part of my talk therefore focuses on, can we just build for agents? I don't want to do this work. Can agents do this?"

Building for agents: a new consumer of digital information (0:33:39)

The framing he opens with is a category claim, and it is the most immediately useful idea in the talk for anybody who maintains a product.

"There's a new category of consumer and manipulator of digital information. It used to be just humans through GUIs, or computers through APIs. And now we have a completely new thing." Agents. "They're computers, but they are humanlike kind of, right? They're people spirits. There's people spirits on the internet, and they need to interact with our software infrastructure."

Can we build for them? It is a new thing, so nobody has.

Who is reading your productHow they arriveWhat you already built for themWhat they need that does not exist yet
HumansA graphical interfaceEverything. Buttons, dropdowns, screenshots, bold text, lists, picturesNothing. This is the case you have solved
ComputersAn APIDocumented endpoints, schemas, SDKsNothing. This is also solved
AgentsThey read your site and your docs like a person, then act like a programNothing. Your docs say "click this button," and they cannot clickA file at a known location saying what this domain is. Markdown instead of HTML. Executable commands instead of click instructions. Repositories flattened into something ingestible

His checklist for serving that third reader has five items, and each one comes with a company already doing it.

1. Tell the agent what your domain is, in a file. The precedent is robots.txt, which sits on your domain and instructs, or as he corrects himself, advises web crawlers on how to behave on your site. "In the same way you can have maybe llms.txt, a file which is just a simple markdown that's telling LLMs what this domain is about, and this is very readable to an LLM." The alternative is the status quo, and he is blunt about it: "if it had to instead get the HTML of your web page and try to parse it, this is very error prone and difficult and will screw it up and it's not going to work. So we can just directly speak to the LLM. It's worth it."

2. Serve your documentation as markdown. A huge amount of documentation is currently written for people, "so you will see things like lists and bold and pictures, and this is not directly accessible by an LLM." He names the early movers: Vercel and Stripe are already offering their documentation in markdown, and he says there are a few more he has seen. "Markdown is super easy for LLMs to understand. This is great."

3. Change the content of the docs, not just the format. This is the part people skip, and he is emphatic that the format is the easy half. "It's not just about taking your docs and making them appear in markdown. That's the easy part. We actually have to change the docs, because anytime your docs say 'click,' this is bad. An LLM will not be able to natively take this action right now." His example of someone doing the hard half: Vercel is replacing every occurrence of "click" with an equivalent curl command that your agent can run on your behalf.

4. Speak the protocol. "And then of course there's Model Context Protocol from Anthropic. And this is also another way, it's a protocol of speaking directly to agents as this new consumer and manipulator of digital information." He says he is very bullish on these ideas.

5. Make your repositories ingestible, and love the one URL trick. The other thing he really likes is the small tools that help ingest data in LLM friendly formats. His worked example is his own repository: when he goes to a GitHub repo like nanoGPT, he cannot feed that to an LLM and ask questions about it, because GitHub is a human interface. But change the URL from github.com to gitingest.com and "this will actually concatenate all the files into a single giant text, and it will create a directory structure," ready to be copy pasted into your favorite model. The more dramatic version is DeepWiki from Devin, which does not just dump the raw content: Devin does an analysis of the repository and builds whole documentation pages for it, which is even more helpful to paste into a model. "So I love all the little tools where you just change the URL and it makes something accessible to an LLM. This is all well and great, and I think there should be a lot more of it."

And in the middle of all that, the single most persuasive anecdote in the section, because it is a case where this already worked for him. He brings up 3Blue1Brown, who makes beautiful animation videos on YouTube, which gets applause. "Yeah, I love this library." The library is Manim (original repo), and Karpathy wanted to make his own animations. There is extensive documentation on how to use it, and he did not want to read it.

So I copy pasted the whole thing to an LLM and I described what I wanted, and it just worked out of the box. Like the LLM just vibe coded me an animation exactly what I wanted, and I was like, wow, this is amazing. So if we can make docs legible to LLMs, it's going to unlock a huge amount of use.

That is the proof. The docs were already good enough, in the sense that they were complete; what mattered was that they were pasteable.

He finishes the section with the honest counterargument, which he raises himself and then answers. It is absolutely possible that in the future LLMs will be able to go around and click things, and he immediately corrects himself: "this is not even future, this is today, they'll be able to go around and click stuff."

So why bother meeting them halfway? Two reasons. First, cost: clicking through interfaces is "still fairly expensive, I would say, to use, and a lot more difficult." Second, coverage: there will be a long tail of software that simply never adapts, because those are not "live player" repositories or pieces of digital infrastructure with anybody maintaining them, and for those we will need the click-capable agents and the URL rewriting tools. "But I think for everyone else, I think it's very worth kind of meeting in some middle point. So I'm bullish on both, if that makes sense."

Both halves of that answer, not one. The agents will learn to use human interfaces, and you should still publish markdown.

Summary: it is the 1960s, and it is time to build (0:38:14)

The closing is short and he delivers it as a stack, which is also a decent index of the talk:

And then the last thing he says, which is the Iron Man suit one more time, used as a forecast:

Going back to the Iron Man suit analogy, I think what we'll see over the next decade roughly is we're going to take the slider from left to right. And it's going to be very interesting to see what that looks like. And I can't wait to build it with all of you. Thank you.

Key takeaways

Chapters

Notable quotes

Software has not changed much on such a fundamental level for 70 years, and then it's changed, I think, about twice quite rapidly in the last few years. And so there's just a huge amount of work to do, a huge amount of software to write and rewrite. Andrej Karpathy, the thesis of the whole talk, 1:02

It's a new kind of a computer, and so in my mind it's worth giving it a new designation of software 3.0. And basically your prompts are now programs that program the LLM. Andrej Karpathy, on why programmable neural networks deserve a new name, 3:05

Not only is it a new programming paradigm, it's also remarkable to me that it's in our native language of English. Andrej Karpathy, on the pinned tweet, 4:07

The software 2.0 stack quite literally ate through the software stack of the autopilot. Andrej Karpathy, on the C++ that got deleted at Tesla, 5:08

We have three completely different programming paradigms, and I think if you're entering the industry it's a very good idea to be fluent in all of them. Andrej Karpathy, his actual advice to the room, 5:39

When the state of the art LLMs go down, it's actually kind of like an intelligence brownout in the world. It's kind of like when the voltage is unreliable in the grid, and the planet just gets dumber. Andrej Karpathy, on the outage that happened days before the talk, 7:42

This is software, and software is a bit less defensible because it is so malleable. Andrej Karpathy, naming the limit of his own fab analogy, 8:12

This is not just electricity or water. It's not something that comes out of the tap as a commodity. These are now increasingly complex software ecosystems. Andrej Karpathy, on why the utility analogy is not enough, 9:15

The LLM is a new kind of a computer. It's kind of like the CPU equivalent. The context windows are kind of like the memory, and then the LLM is orchestrating memory and compute for problem solving. Andrej Karpathy, the operating system mapping, 10:15

You can take an LLM app like Cursor and you can run it on GPT or Claude or Gemini. It's just a drop down. Andrej Karpathy, on portable apps over swappable kernels, 10:46

We're all just, you know, a dimension of the batch when they're running the computer in the cloud. Andrej Karpathy, on what time sharing makes of us, 11:18

Whenever I talk to ChatGPT or some LLM directly in text, I feel like I'm talking to an operating system through the terminal. It's just text. It's direct access to the operating system. Andrej Karpathy, on the missing graphical interface, 11:48

It's really fascinating to me that we have a new magical computer and it's like helping me boil an egg. It's not helping the government do something really crazy like some military ballistics. Andrej Karpathy, on diffusion running backwards, 13:20

ChatGPT was beamed down to our computers, like billions of people, like instantly and overnight, and this is insane. Andrej Karpathy, on the one genuinely unprecedented thing, 14:20

The way I like to think about LLMs is that they're kind of like people spirits. They are stochastic simulations of people, and the simulator in this case happens to be an autoregressive transformer. Andrej Karpathy, the framing that outlived the talk, 14:50

They display jagged intelligence. So they're going to be superhuman in some problem solving domains, and then they're going to make mistakes that basically no human will make. Andrej Karpathy, on 9.11 being greater than 9.9, 16:21

In both of these movies, the protagonists, their weights are fixed and their context windows get wiped every single morning, and it's really problematic to go to work or have relationships when this happens. Andrej Karpathy, on Memento, 50 First Dates, and anterograde amnesia, 17:22

A GUI allows a human to audit the work of these fallible systems and to go faster. Andrej Karpathy, on why the interface is not cosmetic, 19:53

You are in charge of the autonomy slider, and depending on the complexity of the task at hand you can tune the amount of autonomy that you're willing to give up for that task. Andrej Karpathy, on Cursor's four rungs, 20:23

Reading text is effortful and it's not fun, but looking at stuff is fun, and it's just a kind of like a highway to your brain. Andrej Karpathy, on using the vision hardware in your head, 22:24

It's not useful to me to get a diff of 10,000 lines of code to my repo. I'm still the bottleneck, right? Even though that 10,000 lines come out instantly, I have to make sure that this thing is not introducing bugs. Andrej Karpathy, on keeping the AI on the leash, 22:56

If I'm just vibe coding, everything is nice and great. But if I'm actually trying to get work done, it's not so great to have an overreactive agent doing all this kind of stuff. Andrej Karpathy, on the two different modes, 23:28

I'm always scared to get way too big diffs. I always go in small incremental chunks. I want to make sure that everything is good. I want to spin this loop very, very fast. Andrej Karpathy, describing his own workflow, 23:58

I don't think it just works to go to ChatGPT and be like, "Hey, teach me physics." I don't think this works, because the AI gets lost in the woods. Andrej Karpathy, on why his education project is two apps and an auditable syllabus, 25:00

And this drive was perfect. There was zero interventions. And this was 2013, which is now 12 years ago. Andrej Karpathy, on the Waymo ride that convinced him self driving was imminent, 26:31

When I see things like "oh, 2025 is the year of agents," I get very concerned, and I kind of feel like this is the decade of agents. We need humans in the loop. We need to do this carefully. This is software. Let's be serious here. Andrej Karpathy, the correction he came to deliver, 27:34

It's less Iron Man robots and more Iron Man suits that you want to build. It's less like building flashy demos of autonomous agents and more building partial autonomy products. Andrej Karpathy, on what to build this year, 28:04

It used to be the case that you need to spend five to 10 years studying something to be able to do something in software. This is not the case anymore. Andrej Karpathy, on English as the interface, 29:06

I've been on Twitter for like 15 years at this point, and I still have no clue which tweet will become viral and which tweet fizzles and no one cares. I thought that this tweet was going to be the latter. Andrej Karpathy, on the tweet that coined vibe coding, 29:37

How can you look at this video and feel bad about the future? The future is great. I think this will end up being like a gateway drug to software development. Andrej Karpathy, on Tom Wolf's video of kids vibe coding, 30:42

Everyone gets $5 in credits for free when they sign up, and therefore this is a major cost center in my life. So this is a negative revenue app for me right now. I've lost a huge amount of money on MenuGen. Andrej Karpathy, on his own vibe coded product, 31:44

The code was actually the easy part, and most of it actually was when I tried to make it real, so that you can actually have authentication and payments and the domain name and Vercel deployment. This was really hard, and all of this was not code. Andrej Karpathy, on the week that followed the few hours, 32:16

It's telling me go to this URL, click on this dropdown, choose this, go to this, and click on that. A computer is telling me the actions I should be taking. Like, you do it. Why am I doing this? What the hell? Andrej Karpathy, on integrating Google login, and the hinge of the talk, 33:17

There's people spirits on the internet, and they need to interact with our software infrastructure. Can we build for them? Andrej Karpathy, naming the new consumer of digital information, 33:48

It's not just about taking your docs and making them appear in markdown. That's the easy part. We actually have to change the docs, because anytime your docs say "click," this is bad. Andrej Karpathy, on the half of the job everyone skips, 35:55

I copy pasted the whole thing to an LLM and I described what I wanted, and it just worked out of the box. The LLM just vibe coded me an animation exactly what I wanted. Andrej Karpathy, on pasting the entire Manim documentation into a model, 35:23

I love all the little tools where you just change the URL and it makes something accessible to an LLM. Andrej Karpathy, on gitingest and DeepWiki, 36:57

Going back to the Iron Man suit analogy, I think what we'll see over the next decade roughly is we're going to take the slider from left to right. And I can't wait to build it with all of you. Andrej Karpathy, the closing line, 39:00

Resources mentioned

The talk and the speaker

The maps of the three eras

The model providers and the ecosystem

The psychology references

The partial autonomy products

The vibe coding projects

Building for agents

One resource on screen stays unidentified: at 0:24:28 he shows a blog post of LLM best practices that he had "read recently and thought was quite good," the one with the vague prompt to failed verification to spinning argument. He does not name it on stage and the slide text is not legible, so it is not linked here rather than guessed at.

Where this sits in the LLM Learning track

This is the closer of the LLM Learning track, and the only one of the twelve written for somebody deciding what to build rather than learning how the thing works. Everything before it opens the box: the whole stack in one sitting, attention one matrix at a time, the tokenizer and the model built from an empty file, the alignment lever, the look inside. This talk closes the box, hands the thing back to you as a component, and asks the product question.

Read it as a pair with the video immediately before it, Ilya Sutskever on what a decade of sequence to sequence taught him, rather than simply after it. The two set up the field's two live questions and they are different questions. Sutskever's is where the next increment of capability comes from, given that compute keeps growing and data does not. Karpathy's is what you build with the capability already sitting on the table, given that it hallucinates, forgets everything every morning, and can be talked into leaking your data. Together they are the honest state of play: nobody knows how far the curve goes, and there is a decade of product work available regardless of the answer.

It also sits naturally against the "Ship something with it" stage just upstream. Jeremy Howard's ladder is the how, the evals talk is how you find out whether it worked, and Building Effective Agents in LangGraph is the same autonomy question Karpathy asks here, answered in code: reach for a workflow first and build an agent only when the path genuinely cannot be written down. That is the autonomy slider as an engineering decision rather than a product one, and the two pages argue the same thing from opposite ends.

And several abstractions here are only load bearing if you have already seen the machinery underneath. "The context window is the memory" is a throwaway metaphor until you have watched attention actually address it. "Software 2.0 is the weights" is a slogan until you have run the optimizer that produces them. The track is ordered so that by the time you arrive here, every analogy in this talk cashes out into something you have already built.

An honest footnote

The strongest part of this talk is the part Karpathy argues against his own interest. He is the person who coined vibe coding, and he spends the longest single stretch of the keynote explaining why he does not use it for real work, why a ten thousand line diff is a liability, and why a flawless demo in 2013 was followed by twelve years of unfinished work. That is a load bearing correction delivered to exactly the audience most likely to ignore it, and the discourse that followed the talk mostly kept the phrase and dropped the leash.

The weakest part is the operating system analogy, not because it is wrong but because it is seductive. The mapping is clean enough that it invites you to extrapolate the rest of computing history onto it: if we are in the 1960s, then a personal computing revolution and a graphical shell and a software industry are all simply scheduled. Karpathy does not actually claim that. He names the pieces he can map, says the GUI has not been invented and that it is not clear what personal computing looks like here, and invites the room to invent it. The honest reading of his analogy is that it describes the current constraint, expensive centralized compute allocated by time sharing, and not a timeline.

Two claims are worth tracking rather than accepting. The first is that English is the programming language, which is true at the level of the interface and much less true at the level of the artifact: the thing that actually makes an LLM product work is usually a scaffold of ordinary code around the prompt, and he says as much when he describes Cursor orchestrating embedding models and diff appliers under the hood. The second is "the decade of agents," which was a useful corrective in mid 2025 and has aged into a claim with real content, since the measurable thing is whether autonomy products are still shipping with humans in the verification loop. His own test is the right one to apply: not whether the demo works, but whether anybody has declared success.

A note on names. The automatic captions underneath this page mangle most of the proper nouns in the talk, and the spellings here are corrected against the real artifacts: Karpathy for "Carpathy," Anthropic for "Enthropic," Andrew Ng for "Anduring," ChatGPT for "Chach" and "Chaship," Claude for "cloud," AlexNet for "Alexet," Waymo for "Whimo," Manim for "Manon," 3Blue1Brown for "three blue one brown," Vercel for "Versell," gitingest for "get ingest," MenuGen and menugen.app for "menu genen" and "menu.app", GUI for "guey," stochastic for "stoastic," anterograde for "entrograde," Memento and 50 First Dates for "Momento" and "51st dates," llms.txt for "lm.txt txt," and vibe coding for the five different ways the caption track spells it. Quotes on this page are cleaned of those transcription errors and of pure filler, and are otherwise his words in his order.

Full transcript
[00:00:01] Please welcome former director of AI Tesla Andre Carpathy. [Music] Hello. Wow, a lot of people here. Hello. Um, okay. Yeah. So I'm excited to be here today to talk to you about software in the era of AI. And I'm told that many of you are students like bachelors, [00:00:32] masters, PhD and so on. And you're about to enter the industry. And I think it's actually like an extremely unique and very interesting time to enter the industry right now. And I think fundamentally the reason for that is that um software is changing uh again. And I say again because I actually gave this talk already. Um but the problem is that software keeps changing. So I actually have a lot of material to create new talks and I think it's changing quite fundamentally. I think roughly speaking software has not changed much on such a fundamental level [00:01:02] for 70 years. And then it's changed I think about twice quite rapidly in the last few years. And so there's just a huge amount of work to do a huge amount of software to write and rewrite. So let's take a look at maybe the realm of software. So if we kind of think of this as like the map of software this is a really cool tool called map of GitHub. Um this is kind of like all the software that's written. Uh these are instructions to the computer for carrying out tasks in the digital space. So if you zoom in here, these are all different kinds of repositories and this is all the code that has been written. And a few years ago I kind of observed [00:01:33] that um software was kind of changing and there was kind of like a new type of software around and I called this software 2.0 at the time and the idea here was that software 1.0 is the code you write for the computer. Software 2.0 know are basically neural networks and in particular the weights of a neural network and you're not writing this code directly you are most you are more kind of like tuning the data sets and then you're running an optimizer to create to create the parameters of this neural net and I think like at the time neural nets were kind of seen as like just a [00:02:03] different kind of classifier like a decision tree or something like that and so I think it was kind of like um I think this framing was a lot more appropriate and now actually what we have is kind of like an equivalent of GitHub in the realm of software 2.0 And I think the hugging face is basically equivalent of GitHub in software 2.0. And there's also model atlas and you can visualize all the code written there. In case you're curious, by the way, the giant circle, the point in the middle, uh these are the parameters of flux, the image generator. And so anytime someone tunes a on top of a flux model, you [00:02:34] basically create a git commit uh in this space and uh you create a different kind of a image generator. So basically what we have is software 1.0 is the computer code that programs a computer. Software 2.0 are the weights which program neural networks. Uh and here's an example of Alexet image recognizer neural network. Now so far all of the neural networks that we've been familiar with until recently where kind of like fixed function computers image to categories or something like that. And I think what's changed and I think is a quite [00:03:05] fundamental change is that neural networks became programmable with large language models. And so I I see this as quite new, unique. It's a new kind of a computer and uh so in my mind it's uh worth giving it a new designation of software 3.0. And basically your prompts are now programs that program the LLM. And uh remarkably uh these uh prompts are written in English. So it's kind of a very interesting programming language. Um so maybe uh to summarize the [00:03:36] difference if you're doing sentiment classification for example you can imagine writing some uh amount of Python to to basically do sentiment classification or you can train a neural net or you can prompt a large language model. Uh so here this is a few short prompt and you can imagine changing it and programming the computer in a slightly different way. So basically we have software 1.0 software 2.0 and I think we're seeing maybe you've seen a lot of GitHub code is not just like code anymore. there's a bunch of like English interspersed with code and so I think kind of there's a growing category of [00:04:07] new kind of code. So not only is it a new programming paradigm, it's also remarkable to me that it's in our native language of English. And so when this blew my mind a few uh I guess years ago now I tweeted this and um I think it captured the attention of a lot of people and this is my currently pinned tweet uh is that remarkably we're now programming computers in English. Now, when I was at uh Tesla, um we were working on the uh autopilot and uh we were trying to get the car to drive and [00:04:37] I sort of showed this slide at the time where you can imagine that the inputs to the car are on the bottom and they're going through a software stack to produce the steering and acceleration and I made the observation at the time that there was a ton of C++ code around in the autopilot which was the software 1.0 code and then there was some neural nets in there doing image recognition and uh I kind of observed that over time as we made the autopilot better basically the neural network grew in capability and size and in addition to that all the C++ code was being deleted [00:05:08] and kind of like was um and a lot of the kind of capabilities and functionality that was originally written in 1.0 was migrated to 2.0. So as an example, a lot of the stitching up of information across images from the different cameras and across time was done by a neural network and we were able to delete a lot of code and so the software 2.0 stack quite literally ate through the software stack of the autopilot. So I thought this was really remarkable at the time and I think we're seeing the same thing again where uh basically we have a new [00:05:39] kind of software and it's eating through the stack. We have three completely different programming paradigms and I think if you're entering the industry it's a very good idea to be fluent in all of them because they all have slight pros and cons and you may want to program some functionality in 1.0 or 2.0 or 3.0. Are you going to train neurallet? Are you going to just prompt an LLM? Should this be a piece of code that's explicit etc. So we all have to make these decisions and actually potentially uh fluidly trans transition between these paradigms. So what I wanted to get into now is first I want [00:06:09] to in the first part talk about LLMs and how to kind of like think of this new paradigm and the ecosystem and what that looks like. Uh like what are what is this new computer? What does it look like and what does the ecosystem look like? Um I was struck by this quote from Anduring actually uh many years ago now I think and I think Andrew is going to be speaking right after me. Uh but he said at the time AI is the new electricity and I do think that it um kind of captures something very interesting in that LLMs certainly feel like they have properties of utilities right now. So [00:06:41] um LLM labs like OpenAI, Gemini, Enthropic etc. They spend capex to train the LLMs and this is kind of equivalent to building out a grid and then there's opex to serve that intelligence over APIs to all of us and this is done through metered access where we pay per million tokens or something like that and we have a lot of demands that are very utility- like demands out of this API we demand low latency high uptime consistent quality etc. In electricity, you would have a transfer switch. So you can transfer your electricity source [00:07:12] from like grid and solar or battery or generator. In LLM, we have maybe open router and easily switch between the different types of LLMs that exist. Because the LLM are software, they don't compete for physical space. So it's okay to have basically like six electricity providers and you can switch between them, right? Because they don't compete in such a direct way. And I think what's also a little fascinating and we saw this in the last few days actually a lot of the LLMs went down and people were kind of like stuck and unable to work. And uh I think it's kind of fascinating [00:07:42] to me that when the state-of-the-art LLMs go down, it's actually kind of like an intelligence brownout in the world. It's kind of like when the voltage is unreliable in the grid and uh the planet just gets dumber the more reliance we have on these models, which already is like really dramatic and I think will continue to grow. But LLM's don't only have properties of utilities. I think it's also fair to say that they have some properties of fabs. And the reason for this is that the capex required for building LLM is actually quite large. Uh [00:08:12] it's not just like building some uh power station or something like that, right? You're investing a huge amount of money and I think the tech tree and uh for the technology is growing quite rapidly. So we're in a world where we have sort of deep tech trees, research and development secrets that are centralizing inside the LLM labs. Um and but I think the analogy muddies a little bit also because as I mentioned this is software and software is a bit less defensible because it is so malleable. And so um I think it's just an [00:08:43] interesting kind of thing to think about potentially. There's many analogy analogies you can make like a 4 nanometer process node maybe is something like a cluster with certain max flops. You can think about when you're use when you're using Nvidia GPUs and you're only doing the software and you're not doing the hardware. That's kind of like the fabless model. But if you're actually also building your own hardware and you're training on TPUs if you're Google, that's kind of like the Intel model where you own your fab. So I think there's some analogies here that make sense. But actually I think the analogy that makes the most sense perhaps is that in my mind LLM have very strong kind of analogies to operating [00:09:15] systems. Uh in that this is not just electricity or water. It's not something that comes out of the tap as a commodity. uh this is these are now increasingly complex software ecosystems right so uh they're not just like simple commodities like electricity and it's kind of interesting to me that the ecosystem is shaping in a very similar kind of way where you have a few closed source providers like Windows or Mac OS and then you have an open source alternative like Linux and I think for u neural for LLMs as well we have a kind [00:09:45] of a few competing closed source providers and then maybe the llama ecosystem is currently like maybe a close approximation to something that may grow into something like Linux. Again, I think it's still very early because these are just simple LLMs, but we're starting to see that these are going to get a lot more complicated. It's not just about the LLM itself. It's about all the tool use and the multiodalities and how all of that works. And so when I sort of had this realization a while back, I tried to sketch it out and it kind of seemed to me like LLMs are kind of like a new operating system, right? So the LLM is a [00:10:15] new kind of a computer. It's sitting it's kind of like the CPU equivalent. uh the context windows are kind of like the memory and then the LLM is orchestrating memory and compute uh for problem solving um using all of these uh capabilities here and so definitely if you look at it looks very much like operating system from that perspective. Um, a few more analogies. For example, if you want to download an app, say I go to VS Code and I go to download, you can download VS Code and you can run it on [00:10:46] Windows, Linux or or Mac in the same way as you can take an LLM app like cursor and you can run it on GPT or cloud or Gemini series, right? It's just a drop down. So, it's kind of like similar in that way as well. uh more analogies that I think strike me is that we're kind of like in this 1960sish era where LLM compute is still very expensive for this new kind of a computer and that forces the LLMs to be centralized in the cloud and we're all just uh sort of thing clients that [00:11:18] interact with it over the network and none of us have full utilization of these computers and therefore it makes sense to use time sharing where we're all just you know a dimension of the batch when they're running the computer in the cloud. And this is very much what computers used to look like at during this time. The operating systems were in the cloud. Everything was streamed around and there was batching. And so the p the personal computing revolution hasn't happened yet because it's just not economical. It doesn't make sense. But I think some people are trying. And it turns out that Mac minis, for [00:11:48] example, are a very good fit for some of the LLMs because it's all if you're doing batch one inference, this is all super memory bound. So this actually works. And uh I think these are some early indications maybe of personal computing. Uh but this hasn't really happened yet. It's not clear what this looks like. Maybe some of you get to invent what what this is or how it works or uh what this should what this should be. Maybe one more analogy that I'll mention is whenever I talk to Chach or some LLM directly in text, I feel like I'm talking to an operating system through [00:12:18] the terminal. Like it's just it's it's text. It's direct access to the operating system. And I think a guey hasn't yet really been invented in like a general way like should chatt have a guey like different than just a tech bubbles. Uh certainly some of the apps that we're going to go into in a bit have guey but there's no like guey across all the tasks if that makes sense. Um there are some ways in which LLMs are different from kind of operating systems in some fairly unique way and from early computing. And I [00:12:49] wrote about uh this one particular property that strikes me as very different uh this time around. It's that LLMs like flip they flip the direction of technology diffusion uh that is usually uh present in technology. So for example with electricity, cryptography, computing, flight, internet, GPS, lots of new transformative technologies that have not been around. Typically it is the government and corporations that are the first users because it's new and expensive etc. and it only later diffuses to consumer. Uh, but I feel [00:13:20] like LLMs are kind of like flipped around. So maybe with early computers, it was all about ballistics and military use, but with LLMs, it's all about how do you boil an egg or something like that. This is certainly like a lot of my use. And so it's really fascinating to me that we have a new magical computer and it's like helping me boil an egg. It's not helping the government do something really crazy like some military ballistics or some special technology. Indeed, corporations are governments are lagging behind the adoption of all of us, of all of these technologies. So, it's just backwards and I think it informs maybe some of the [00:13:50] uses of how we want to use this technology or like where are some of the first apps and so on. So, in summary so far, LLM labs LLMs. I think it's accurate language to use, but LLMs are complicated operating systems. They're circa 1960s in computing and we're redoing computing all over again. and they're currently available via time sharing and distributed like a utility. What is new and unprecedented is that they're not in the hands of a few governments and corporations. They're in the hands of all of us because we all [00:14:20] have a computer and it's all just software and Chaship was beamed down to our computers like billions of people like instantly and overnight and this is insane. Uh and it's kind of insane to me that this is the case and now it is our time to enter the industry and program these computers. This is crazy. So I think this is quite remarkable. Before we program LLMs, we have to kind of like spend some time to think about what these things are. And I especially like to kind of talk about their psychology. So the way I like to think about LLMs is [00:14:50] that they're kind of like people spirits. Um they are stoastic simulations of people. Um and the simulator in this case happens to be an auto reggressive transformer. So transformer is a neural net. Uh it's and it just kind of like is goes on the level of tokens. It goes chunk chunk chunk chunk chunk. And there's an almost equal amount of compute for every single chunk. Um and um this simulator of course is is just is basically there's some weights involved and we fit it to all of text that we have on the internet [00:15:20] and so on. And you end up with this kind of a simulator and because it is trained on humans, it's got this emergent psychology that is humanlike. So the first thing you'll notice is of course uh LLM have encyclopedic knowledge and memory. uh and they can remember lots of things, a lot more than any single individual human can because they read so many things. It's it actually kind of reminds me of this movie Rainman, which I actually really recommend people watch. It's an amazing movie. I love this movie. Um and Dustin Hoffman here is an autistic savant who has almost perfect memory. So, he can read a he can [00:15:51] read like a phone book and remember all of the names and phone numbers. And I kind of feel like LM are kind of like very similar. They can remember Shaw hashes and lots of different kinds of things very very easily. So they certainly have superpowers in some set in some respects. But they also have a bunch of I would say cognitive deficits. So they hallucinate quite a bit. Um and they kind of make up stuff and don't have a very good uh sort of internal model of self-nowledge, not sufficient at least. And this has gotten better but not perfect. They display jagged [00:16:21] intelligence. So they're going to be superhuman in some problems solving domains. And then they're going to make mistakes that basically no human will make. like you know they will insist that 9.11 is greater than 9.9 or that there are two Rs in strawberry these are some famous examples but basically there are rough edges that you can trip on so that's kind of I think also kind of unique um they also kind of suffer from entrograde amnesia um so uh and I think I'm alluding to the fact that if you have a co-orker who joins your organization this co-orker will over [00:16:51] time learn your organization and uh they will understand and gain like a huge amount of context on the organization and they go home and they sleep and they consolidate knowledge and they develop expertise over time. LLMs don't natively do this and this is not something that has really been solved in the R&D of LLM. I think um and so context windows are really kind of like working memory and you have to sort of program the working memory quite directly because they don't just kind of like get smarter by uh by default and I think a lot of people get tripped up by the analogies uh in this way. Uh in popular culture I [00:17:22] recommend people watch these two movies uh Momento and 51st dates. In both of these movies, the protagonists, their weights are fixed and their context windows gets wiped every single morning and it's really problematic to go to work or have relationships when this happens and this happens to all the time. I guess one more thing I would point to is security kind of related limitations of the use of LLM. So for example, LLMs are quite gullible. Uh they are susceptible to prompt injection risks. They might leak your data etc. And so um and there's many other [00:17:52] considerations uh security related. So, so basically long story short, you have to load your you have to load your you have to simultaneously think through this superhuman thing that has a bunch of cognitive deficits and issues. How do we and yet they are extremely like useful and so how do we program them and how do we work around their deficits and enjoy their superhuman powers. So what I want to switch to now is talk about the opportunities of how do we use these models and what are some of the biggest opportunities. This is not a [00:18:22] comprehensive list just some of the things that I thought were interesting for this talk. The first thing I'm kind of excited about is what I would call partial autonomy apps. So for example, let's work with the example of coding. You can certainly go to chacht directly and you can start copy pasting code around and copyping bug reports and stuff around and getting code and copy pasting everything around. Why would you why would you do that? Why would you go directly to the operating system? It makes a lot more sense to have an app dedicated for this. And so I think many of you uh use uh cursor. I do as well. [00:18:53] And uh cursor is kind of like the thing you want instead. You don't want to just directly go to the chash apt. And I think cursor is a very good example of an early LLM app that has a bunch of properties that I think are um useful across all the LLM apps. So in particular, you will notice that we have a traditional interface that allows a human to go in and do all the work manually just as before. But in addition to that, we now have this LLM integration that allows us to go in bigger chunks. And so some of the properties of LLM apps that I think are [00:19:23] shared and useful to point out. Number one, the LLMs basically do a ton of the context management. Um, number two, they orchestrate multiple calls to LLMs, right? So in the case of cursor, there's under the hood embedding models for all your files, the actual chat models, models that apply diffs to the code, and this is all orchestrated for you. A really big one that uh I think also maybe not fully appreciated always is application specific uh GUI and the importance of it. Um because you don't [00:19:53] just want to talk to the operating system directly in text. Text is very hard to read, interpret, understand and also like you don't want to take some of these actions natively in text. So it's much better to just see a diff as like red and green change and you can see what's being added is subtracted. It's much easier to just do command Y to accept or command N to reject. I shouldn't have to type it in text, right? So, a guey allows a human to audit the work of these fallible systems and to go faster. I'm going to come back to this point a little bit uh later as well. And the last kind of feature I [00:20:23] want to point out is that there's what I call the autonomy slider. So, for example, in cursor, you can just do tap completion. You're mostly in charge. You can select a chunk of code and command K to change just that chunk of code. You can do command L to change the entire file. Or you can do command I which just you know let it rip do whatever you want in the entire repo and that's the sort of full autonomy agent agentic version and so you are in charge of the autonomy slider and depending on the complexity of the task at hand you can uh tune the [00:20:53] amount of autonomy that you're willing to give up uh for that task maybe to show one more example of a fairly successful LLM app uh perplexity um it also has very similar features to what I've just pointed out to in cursor uh it packages up a lot of the information. It orchestrates multiple LLMs. It's got a GUI that allows you to audit some of its work. So, for example, it will site sources and you can imagine inspecting them. And it's got an autonomy slider. You can either just do a quick search or you can do research or you can do deep research and come back 10 minutes later. [00:21:24] So, this is all just varying levels of autonomy that you give up to the tool. So, I guess my question is I feel like a lot of software will become partially autonomous. I'm trying to think through like what does that look like? And for many of you who maintain products and services, how are you going to make your products and services partially autonomous? Can an LLM see everything that a human can see? Can an LLM act in all the ways that a human could act? And can humans supervise and stay in the loop of this activity? Because again, these are fallible systems that aren't yet perfect. And what does a diff look [00:21:54] like in Photoshop or something like that? You know, and also a lot of the traditional software right now, it has all these switches and all this kind of stuff that's all designed for human. All of this has to change and become accessible to LLMs. So, one thing I want to stress with a lot of these LLM apps that I'm not sure gets as much attention as it should is um we we're now kind of like cooperating with AIS and usually they are doing the generation and we as humans are doing the verification. It is in our interest to make this loop go as fast as [00:22:24] possible. So, we're getting a lot of work done. There are two major ways that I think uh this can be done. Number one, you can speed up verification a lot. Um, and I think guies, for example, are extremely important to this because a guey utilizes your computer vision GPU in all of our head. Reading text is effortful and it's not fun, but looking at stuff is fun and it's it's just a kind of like a highway to your brain. So, I think guies are very useful for auditing systems and visual representations in general. And number two, I would say is we have to keep the [00:22:56] AI on the leash. We I think a lot of people are getting way over excited with AI agents and uh it's not useful to me to get a diff of 10,000 lines of code to my repo. Like I have to I'm still the bottleneck, right? Even though that 10,00 lines come out instantly, I have to make sure that this thing is not introducing bugs. It's just like and that it's doing the correct thing, right? And that there's no security issues and so on. So um I think that um yeah basically you we have to sort of like it's in our interest to make the [00:23:28] the flow of these two go very very fast and we have to somehow keep the AI on the leash because it gets way too overreactive. It's uh it's kind of like this. This is how I feel when I do AI assisted coding. If I'm just bite coding everything is nice and great but if I'm actually trying to get work done it's not so great to have an overreactive uh agent doing all this kind of stuff. So this slide is not very good. I'm sorry, but I guess I'm trying to develop like many of you some ways of utilizing these agents in my coding workflow and to do AI assisted coding. And in my own work, [00:23:58] I'm always scared to get way too big diffs. I always go in small incremental chunks. I want to make sure that everything is good. I want to spin this loop very very fast and um I sort of work on small chunks of single concrete thing. Uh and so I think many of you probably are developing similar ways of working with the with LLMs. Um, I also saw a number of blog posts that try to develop these best practices for working with LLMs. And here's one that I read recently and I thought was quite good. And it kind of discussed some techniques and some of them have to [00:24:28] do with how you keep the AI on the leash. And so, as an example, if you are prompting, if your prompt is vague, then uh the AI might not do exactly what you wanted and in that case, verification will fail. You're going to ask for something else. If a verification fails, then you're going to start spinning. So it makes a lot more sense to spend a bit more time to be more concrete in your prompts which increases the probability of successful verification and you can move forward. And so I think a lot of us are going to end up finding um kind of techniques like this. I think in my own work as well I'm currently interested in uh what education looks like in um [00:25:00] together with kind of like now that we have AI uh and LLMs what does education look like? And I think a a large amount of thought for me goes into how we keep AI on the leash. I don't think it just works to go to chat and be like, "Hey, teach me physics." I don't think this works because the AI is like gets lost in the woods. And so for me, this is actually two separate apps. For example, there's an app for a teacher that creates courses and then there's an app that takes courses and serves them to students. And in both cases, we now have this intermediate artifact of a course [00:25:31] that is auditable and we can make sure it's good. We can make sure it's consistent. and the AI is kept on the leash with respect to a certain syllabus, a certain like um progression of projects and so on. And so this is one way of keeping the AI on leash and I think has a much higher likelihood of working and the AI is not getting lost in the woods. One more kind of analogy I wanted to sort of allude to is I'm not I'm no stranger to partial autonomy and I kind of worked on this I think for five years at Tesla and this is also a partial autonomy product and shares a lot of the [00:26:01] features like for example right there in the instrument panel is the GUI of the autopilot so it's showing me what the what the neural network sees and so on and we have the autonomy slider where over the course of my tenure there we did more and more autonomous tasks for the user and maybe the story that I wanted to tell very briefly is uh actually the first time I drove a self-driving vehicle was in 2013 and I had a friend who worked at Whimo and uh he offered to give me a drive around Palo Alto. I took this picture using [00:26:31] Google Glass at the time and many of you are so young that you might not even know what that is. Uh but uh yeah, this was like all the rage at the time. And we got into this car and we went for about a 30-minute drive around Palo Alto highways uh streets and so on. And this drive was perfect. There was zero interventions and this was 2013 which is now 12 years ago. And it kind of struck me because at the time when I had this perfect drive, this perfect demo, I felt like, wow, self-driving is imminent because this just worked. This is incredible. Um, but here we are 12 years [00:27:03] later and we are still working on autonomy. Um, we are still working on driving agents and even now we haven't actually like really solved the problem. like you may see Whimos going around and they look driverless but you know there's still a lot of teleoperation and a lot of human in the loop of a lot of this driving so we still haven't even like declared success but I think it's definitely like going to succeed at this point but it just took a long time and so I think like like this is software is really tricky I think in the same way that driving is tricky and so when I see [00:27:34] things like oh 2025 is the year of agents I get very concerned and I kind of feel like you know this is the decade of agents and this is going to be quite some time. We need humans in the loop. We need to do this carefully. This is software. Let's be serious here. One more kind of analogy that I always think through is the Iron Man suit. Uh I think this is I always love Iron Man. I think it's like so um correct in a bunch of ways with respect to technology and how it will play out. And what I love about [00:28:04] the Iron Man suit is that it's both an augmentation and Tony Stark can drive it and it's also an agent. And in some of the movies, the Iron Man suit is quite autonomous and can fly around and find Tony and all this kind of stuff. And so this is the autonomy slider is we can be we can build augmentations or we can build agents and we kind of want to do a bit of both. But at this stage I would say working with fallible LLMs and so on. I would say you know it's less Iron Man robots and more Iron Man suits that you want to build. It's less like building flashy demos of autonomous [00:28:35] agents and more building partial autonomy products. And these products have custom gueies and UIUX. And we're trying to um and this is done so that the generation verification loop of the human is very very fast. But we are not losing the sight of the fact that it is in principle possible to automate this work. And there should be an autonomy slider in your product. And you should be thinking about how you can slide that autonomy slider and make your product uh sort of um more autonomous over time. But this is kind of how I think there's lots of opportunities in these kinds of products. I want to now switch gears a [00:29:06] little bit and talk about one other dimension that I think is very unique. Not only is there a new type of programming language that allows for autonomy in software but also as I mentioned it's programmed in English which is this natural interface and suddenly everyone is a programmer because everyone speaks natural language like English. So this is extremely bullish and very interesting to me and also completely unprecedented. I would say it it used to be the case that you need to spend five to 10 years studying something to be able to do something in software. this is not the case anymore. So, I don't know if by any chance anyone [00:29:37] has heard of vibe coding. Uh, this this is the tweet that kind of like introduced this, but I'm told that this is now like a major meme. Um, fun story about this is that I've been on Twitter for like 15 years or something like that at this point and I still have no clue which tweet will become viral and which tweet like fizzles and no one cares. And I thought that this tweet was going to be the latter. I don't know. It was just like a shower of thoughts. But this became like a total meme and I really just can't tell. But I guess like it struck a chord and it gave a name to [00:30:08] something that everyone was feeling but couldn't quite say in words. So now there's a Wikipedia page and everything. This is like [Applause] yeah this is like a major contribution now or something like that. So, um, so Tom Wolf from HuggingFace shared this beautiful video that I really love. Um, these are kids vibe coding. [00:30:42] And I find that this is such a wholesome video. Like, I love this video. Like, how can you look at this video and feel bad about the future? The future is great. I think this will end up being like a gateway drug to software development. Um, I'm not a doomer about the future of the generation and I think yeah, I love this video. So, I tried by coding a little bit uh as well because it's so fun. Uh, so bike coding is so great when you want to build something super duper custom that doesn't appear to exist and [00:31:12] you just want to wing it because it's a Saturday or something like that. So, I built this uh iOS app and I don't I can't actually program in Swift, but I was really shocked that I was able to build like a super basic app and I'm not going to explain it. It's really uh dumb, but uh I kind of like this was just like a day of work and this was running on my phone like later that day and I was like, "Wow, this is amazing." I didn't have to like read through Swift for like five days or something like that to like get started. I also vipcoded this app called Menu Genen. And this is live. You can try it in menu.app. And I basically had this [00:31:44] problem where I show up at a restaurant, I read through the menu, and I have no idea what any of the things are. And I need pictures. So this doesn't exist. So I was like, "Hey, I'm going to bite code it." So, um, this is what it looks like. You go to menu.app, um, and, uh, you take a picture of a of a menu and then menu generates the images and everyone gets $5 in credits for free when you sign up. And therefore, this is a major cost center in my life. So, this is a negative negative uh, revenue app for me right [00:32:16] now. I've lost a huge amount of money on menu. Okay. But the fascinating thing about menu genen for me is that the code of the v the vite coding part the code was actually the easy part of v of v coding menu and most of it actually was when I tried to make it real so that you can actually have authentication and payments and the domain name and averal deployment. This was really hard and all of this was not code. All of this devops stuff was in me in the browser clicking [00:32:47] stuff and this was extreme slo and took another week. So it was really fascinating that I had the menu genen um basically demo working on my laptop in a few hours and then it took me a week because I was trying to make it real and the reason for this is this was just really annoying. Um, so for example, if you try to add Google login to your web page, I know this is very small, but just a huge amount of instructions of this clerk library telling me how to integrate this. And this is crazy. Like it's telling me go to this URL, click on [00:33:17] this dropdown, choose this, go to this, and click on that. And it's like telling me what to do. Like a computer is telling me the actions I should be taking. Like you do it. Why am I doing this? What the hell? I had to follow all these instructions. This was crazy. So I think the last part of my talk therefore focuses on can we just build for agents? I don't want to do this work. Can agents do this? Thank you. Okay. So roughly speaking, I think [00:33:48] there's a new category of consumer and manipulator of digital information. It used to be just humans through GUIs or computers through APIs. And now we have a completely new thing and agents are they're computers but they are humanlike kind of right they're people spirits there's people spirits on the internet and they need to interact with our software infrastructure like can we build for them it's a new thing so as an example you can have robots.txt on your domain and you can instruct uh or like advise I suppose um uh web crawlers on [00:34:18] how to behave on your website in the same way you can have maybe lm.txt txt file which is just a simple markdown that's telling LLMs what this domain is about and this is very readable to a to an LLM. If it had to instead get the HTML of your web page and try to parse it, this is very errorprone and difficult and will screw it up and it's not going to work. So we can just directly speak to the LLM. It's worth it. Um a huge amount of documentation is currently written for people. So you will see things like lists and bold and pictures and this is not directly accessible by an LLM. So I see some of [00:34:51] the services now are transitioning a lot of the their docs to be specifically for LLMs. So Versell and Stripe as an example are early movers here but there are a few more that I've seen already and they offer their documentation in markdown. Markdown is super easy for LMS to understand. This is great. Um maybe one simple example from from uh my experience as well. Maybe some of you know three blue one brown. He makes beautiful animation videos on YouTube. [Applause] [00:35:23] Yeah, I love this library. So that he wrote uh Manon and I wanted to make my own and uh there's extensive documentations on how to use manon and so I didn't want to actually read through it. So I copy pasted the whole thing to an LLM and I described what I wanted and it just worked out of the box like LLM just bcoded me an animation exactly what I wanted and I was like wow this is amazing. So if we can make docs legible to LLMs, it's going to unlock a huge amount of um kind of use and um I think this is wonderful and should should happen more. The other thing I [00:35:55] wanted to point out is that you do unfortunately have to it's not just about taking your docs and making them appear in markdown. That's the easy part. We actually have to change the docs because anytime your docs say click this is bad. An LLM will not be able to natively take this action right now. So, Verscell, for example, is replacing every occurrence of click with an equivalent curl command that your LM agent could take on your behalf. Um, and so I think this is very interesting. And then, of course, there's a model context protocol from Enthropic. And this is also another way, it's a protocol of speaking directly to agents as this new [00:36:26] consumer and manipulator of digital information. So, I'm very bullish on these ideas. The other thing I really like is a number of little tools here and there that are helping ingest data that in like very LLM friendly formats. So for example, when I go to a GitHub repo like my nanoGPT repo, I can't feed this to an LLM and ask questions about it uh because it's you know this is a human interface on GitHub. So when you just change the URL from GitHub to get ingest then uh this will actually concatenate all the files into a single giant text and it will create a directory structure etc. And this is [00:36:57] ready to be copy pasted into your favorite LLM and you can do stuff. Maybe even more dramatic example of this is deep wiki where it's not just the raw content of these files. uh this is from Devon but also like they have Devon basically do analysis of the GitHub repo and Devon basically builds up a whole docs uh pages just for your repo and you can imagine that this is even more helpful to copy paste into your LLM. So I love all the little tools that basically where you just change the URL and it makes something accessible to an LLM. So this is all well and great and u [00:37:29] I think there should be a lot more of it. One more note I wanted to make is that it is absolutely possible that in the future LLMs will be able to this is not even future this is today they'll be able to go around and they'll be able to click stuff and so on but I still think it's very worth u basically meeting LLM halfway LLM's halfway and making it easier for them to access all this information uh because this is still fairly expensive I would say to use and uh a lot more difficult and so I do think that lots of software there will be a long tail where it won't like adapt [00:38:00] apps because these are not like live player sort of repositories or digital infrastructure and we will need these tools. Uh but I think for everyone else I think it's very worth kind of like meeting in some middle point. So I'm bullish on both if that makes sense. So in summary, what an amazing time to get into the industry. We need to rewrite a ton of code. A ton of code will be written by professionals and by coders. These LLMs are kind of like utilities, kind of like fabs, but they're kind of especially like operating systems. But it's so early. [00:38:30] It's like 1960s of operating systems and uh and I think a lot of the analogies cross over. Um and these LMS are kind of like these fallible uh you know people spirits that we have to learn to work with. And in order to do that properly, we need to adjust our infrastructure towards it. So when you're building these LLM apps, I describe some of the ways of working effectively with these LLMs and some of the tools that make that uh kind of possible and how you can spin this loop very very quickly and basically create partial tunneling [00:39:00] products and then um yeah, a lot of code has to also be written for the agents more directly. But in any case, going back to the Iron Man suit analogy, I think what we'll see over the next decade roughly is we're going to take the slider from left to right. And I'm very interesting. It's going to be very interesting to see what that looks like. And I can't wait to build it with all of you. Thank you.